Yet another white person (assuming) steps forth to tell me how to display
and refer to my own culture.
Massively awkward when white people try and educate hispanic and/or latino
people on how to self-identify. Ironically I use hispanic and latino
because most white people don't understand what chicano means. Also as
someone who is 1/4 Jicarilla Apache, I also do not need a lesson on First
Nations identification either.
-Hep
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: refugia <refugia(a)zoho.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:57 PM
Subject: Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is
happening?
To: hepkitten(a)gmail.com
The time you put into these emails are your own choice. The sudolist is
much larger than sudo's membership. I'm not sure who either of you are. I
don't see you at sudo. I don't sympathize with your or Sonya's perspectives
but you are probably both well interventioned. Sniping on burner's cultural
appropriate of indigenous culture is bit too easy and those types of
discussions are best had in person if your intent is not malicious. People
get defensive and close off if they think they are being called out as
racist.
If your intent is to be politically correct in your speech don't use the
terms hispanic or latino, especially when talking to strangers. In the
liberal lexicon they are vague racial-cultural. Just say spanish speaking,
if that's what you mean and won't confuse people further. People are
confused on their own.
The terms latino and hispanic are used to erase peoples indigenous
identity. I think that sort language and the obfuscating conception of race
are much more damaging than white people painting skeletons on their face
or making altars. Call first nation peoples by their actual names. Don't
lump them all together. It's a habit that americans should stop, especially
if they regard themselves as some sort of radical.
The holiday is a derivative of the Nahua holiday. Speaking spanish doesn't
give one special dibs on venerating their dead. In Mexico it's been
appropriated by mexicans broadly, by non-Nahuatl speaking indigenous
peoples, mesitizos and white mexicans. In mexico it's a constructed
national holiday (like american halloween) with a multitude of local
variations. You don't get this sort of exclusionary discourse about who can
participate in the holiday in Mexico but you do see criticism of Halloween
elements being included in dia de los muertos. In the post-revolution era
there was a campaign to invent a national identity in a huge and extremely
diverse territory. The sugar skulls used in dias in other part of Abya Yala
are post-colonial. Sugar aint from here:)
There are other related versions of the holiday not related to the Nahuah,
Guede, Finados. All souls day is a european christian holiday which is part
of many the of the modern syncretic versions of the holiday. Most
traditional cultures on all continents have a similar holiday around this
time year.
What does it mean to establish consent with another culture, consent to
participate in ceremony? There real tensions in between the ideas of the
free culture movement and left wing attempts at non-colonial intercultural
relations y understanding.
Anywhoo the only event happening at the omni is a Haitian dance
performance. There was no proposal for the event at a sudo or omni meeting.
It's not worth spending that much time writing emails.
Saludos,
Patrick
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This is a poll question the KTLA website seems to find interesting and/or
important. I've attached a screen grab, which includes their suggested
timelines. Internet anthropology!
Hello everyone,
The Sustainable Economies Law Center is looking for items to auction off
during its annual Fall fundraiser. They also like to use the opportunity to
highlight the organization or individual that the item comes from. Would
any of you be interested in contributing an item (3D-printed magnets?)
either for Sudo Room or for yourself?
Take care,
Vicky
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Date: 2014-10-30 15:43 GMT-07:00
Subject: It's a Celebration! A SELC Fall Celebration!
To: Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com>
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Hi Vicky,
You are the movers and shakers of the new economy and we want you to join
us in a celebration!
You're receiving this email because you've experienced first hand the work
that SELC does through the Resilient Communities Legal Cafe. I wanted to
take this moment to extend an invitation to join us as we celebrate our 5th
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Its my pleasure to invite you to our upcoming *Fall Celebration & Showcase
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*
on *November 18th at Impact HUB Oakland* -- it’ll be a fun and informal
evening with *dinner and drinks*, but also an opportunity for us to share
all the work that SELC has been up to. Also, there will be a lot of squash!
At each Fall Celebration, we host a silent auction to help raise the
necessary funds to keep our nonprofit operating. *Would you be able to
donate an item or gift certificate to our silent auction? *This is a great
way to get exposure for your organization or business, and it helps us
provide our community a sample of the goods and services of the new
economy.
If you're able to donate an item, please reply to this email with the item
that you can donate and I'll arrange a drop off or pick up time with you.
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https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-10-27
==Attendees ==
* potential: Vicky, April, Yar, Whitney, Jenny, Anca, Matt, Hol, Julio,
Scott
* actual: julio, cere, anca, yar, hol, max, vicky, scott, brendan, april,
matt, marc
* official board members here: julio, hol, max, vicky, matt, anca, marc
* quorum: 7. JUST BARELY.
==Next Meeting==
* Next Year's Meeting will be on: 2015-10-20. October the twentieth in two
thousand fifteen in the year of our lord, common era.
* Max will schedule email
$ date -d 'Tuesday, October 20, 2015 7:00 PM PDT' +%s
1445392800
==501c3==
* Create an action plan and deadline to complete our 501(c)(3) application.
* Whitney, Vicky and April will bottom-line this. Julio is on stand-by.
* Since our 501(c)(3) form has not been completed, we need to fill out
state form 3500 to convince California not to levy state taxes for last
year (2013).
==State Tax things==
* Due Nov. 7.
* Matt, Julio and Hol will bottom line it and working on it tonight.
== CT1 ==
* did we file this last year?
== New Treasurer ==
Find a new Treasurer to replace Max.
General Responsibilities:
# be responsible for filing yearly taxes,
# deposit misc. funds into the bank account
# give out misc money that sudo room approves
# report to sudo room the state of finances.
Also, Fundraising:
* Additionally, since Sudo Room is once again receiving less income each
month than expenditure, a good Treasurer would have some fundraising ideas,
and/or want to execute other's ideas.
Who wants to do it?
* We're pretty sure treasurer is liable for all sudo's debts, and also
omni's debts since we're a signatory on the omni lease. But not 100% sure.
Also, people are saying if we get 501c3 that won't be an issue.
* Do we have a transparent sheet listing where all the money goes? Not
really but we can mine the meeting notes. It's pretty much just omni shared
expenses + internet.
* Anca's done stuff before. Mentions quickbooks.
* Matt points out membership roles: exchequer. separate from the
state-mandated role. they should be doing the work.
* To be very clear, our values don't call for a powerful treasurer
position. This is just something the state requires us to do. We will
absolutely limit their power and responsibility to that and only that.
* Vicky and Scott are both interested.
* Vicky wonders whether she's even a member anymore. But you don't have to
be a member to be on the board.
* lots and lots of debate over sudoroom's debt and hypothetical disaster
scenarios
* yet another tangent about dvorak keyboards
* shouldn't we figure out general board membership first?
* lots of confusion over our bylaws. we need to read them in full again.
they were just copied from noisebridge.
* you have to go to one meeting a year. that's really the bare minimum.
* apparently california also requires from a 501c3: president, secretary,
CEO, Treasurer and/or CFO
** http://www.nonprofitlawblog.com/treasurer-duties/
* marc is willing to do it
* unanimous vote of present board members, plus jenny remotely: Marc Juul
is our new treasurer, replacing Max Klein.
'''Voted 7-0 in favour of Making Marc Juul new Treasurer'''
== New People ==
Discuss refreshing the Board with a new set of members.
* Update Board page on the wiki: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Board
* who wants to be on the board this year? raise your hand: vicky, scott,
anca, julio, matt
* are we keeping the other folks?
* einstein could be chairdog
* last time everybody was nominated
* april wants to do it
* We'll put another round of nominations to the mailing list
==Address Change==
We have to notify California that our address has changed. We're no longer
at 2141 Broadway...
==Meeting Notes==
discussion about board members and role of the members. Who should be a
member?
==A third working group (Matt and Vicky and)==
Write a description fro board memebers
for treasurer,
then blast the list and announce for a timeline for nominating new board
members, and timeline for voting on them
then april will make an announcement at the general meeting this week
== outtake==
what was your favorite thing about this meeting?
* scott laughing at his jokes
* seeing all of you here!
* efficient. sudo meetings are getting shorter.
* low-key. and fixing my IDE.
* wine club. and everyone here.
* they already did everything when i got here
* chips & guac
* that we don't know what the hell we're doing
* the we accomplished our purpose - find a new treasurer
* that we had quorum, and that our next meeting is on Tuesday October 20th
2015
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽ http://notconfusing.com/
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:06:44 AM Jenny Ryan wrote:
> it would appear that the items up for consensus at tonight's Omni
> meeting were not discussed.
There's only one consensus item on the pad - to spend $1k of omni
money on ballroom soundproofing materials - and Sudoroom already
discussed it at last week's meeting (with unanimous yes).
The Sudo Room general membership is cordially invited to begin nominating
new Board Members 21 days from now. I will send a reminder. This
announcement is just a legal thing. Beep blop.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?
To: Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com>
You're right Vicky. The flyer has been changed--it is, after all, better
to make death obsolete than the remembrance of it, although some people
believe that technological resurrection may be possible someday.
Also, no one brought it up, but I realized it could be possible that the
very Halloween-ish nature of the event could be somewhat offensive. People
who are perceived to be using technology in way that transgresses the
traditionally accepted human form are very much discriminated against, e.g.
Steve Mann's attack in France. I've been called a "cyborg freak," and
"autistic" for my wearable tech experimentation. I hoped to address this
perceived uncanniness of these technologies through the playful "cyborg
zombie" invitation, but I understand that that could be very offensive to
some people questioning their primate-body-identities who have been
harassed or attacked because of other people's fear.
This has been an interesting discussion. I appreciate all of your feedback
very much.
Here's the new flyer. Peace everyone!
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Lesley, I want to clarify that my intention wasn't to put you down,
> but rather to suggest an alternative.
>
> I also wanted to say that I grew up somewhere where the holiday was more
> something that everyone celebrated, so I can maybe empathize with how you
> may feel coming here to the Bay where there is more tension around the
> holiday.
>
> 2014-10-28 13:04 GMT-07:00 Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com>:
>
> +1 thanks Vicky!
>>
>> On October 28, 2014 12:25:51 PM PDT, Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lesley,
>>>
>>> I would strongly suggest a language change to the flyer.
>>>
>>> The flyer currently asks: "What would Nov. 1 look like if Dia de los
>>> Muertos was obsolete?" For me, DÃa de los Muertos is a day to immortalize
>>> my loved ones who have passed away. Given this sentiment, the idea of it
>>> becoming "obsolete" doesn't make sense to me. Also, I'm certain you don't
>>> mean it this way, but I feel like it even borders on judgmental, like it
>>> brushes off that sentiment and the immortality of the event itself. I would
>>> suggest language that asks how DÃa de los Muertos might be reimagined in a
>>> futurist framework. Does that make sense?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>
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432-266-0397
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<http://lesleybell.com>
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Hi sudo-discuss,
I've been doing some poking around looking into police accountability in
the US... seems like one major stumbling block is a lack of public access
to police data. Here in Oakland, it looks like OPD has a ton of data on use
of force and complaints that could be de-identified and made available to
the public, used in data visualizations, etc. -- but isn't. (Not that OPD's
data should be the only data source in investigating accountability, but I
figure it's a start. Also it looks like *some* of this data is available,
but it's a super limited subset + kind of all over the place)
Recently I requested some data through RecordTrac
<http://records.oaklandnet.com>, chatted with the public records request
coordinator... just kind of curious about what would happen and how it
worked. A lot of the OPD requests I saw on RecordTrac received PDF
documents as responses -- but OPD is entering this stuff electronically
AFAIK; you'd think a structured dataset would be easier to produce if
anything.
Anyway, I'm wondering if other people on this list are interested in this
stuff, have suggestions, thoughts, etc. It seems like there should be a
coordinated effort out there working on work on this, but I haven't found
one (?)
Thanks!
