On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Johnny <mostmodernist(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Please quit the rabid accusation of cultural appropriation. It is ugly, cuz
> the people of this community are basically "culture warriors", most of whom
> I am sure are very keen to be respectful, who basically walk on cultural
> eggshells in a concerted effort to be inclusive and non-alienating. And
> why? THEY KNOW THAT CULTURAL EXCHANGE IS IMPORTANT.
Sorry, but to me the only thing rabid, incendiary or ugly in this
thread is the idea that naming power relationships is somehow itself
rabid, incendiary, or ugly. This is the "she who smelt it dealt it"
theory of sociology, and in my experience it only serves to silence
marginalized people.
Hey all,
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-10-29#Conflict_Resolution
"Amendment: Any further sleeping by ChrisB at Omni will result in an
immediate temporary ban."
I'm here at omni alone, except Chris B is asleep in the basement.
The lighting room above the stage (aka "crow's nest" aka "man cave") is
still rather full of equipment, project pieces, personal effects, etc of
Chris.
It seems that instead of completely cleaning out the room after our last
meeting on Wednesday, he cleaned up part of it, and set up a "DJ booth"
inside sudo room on the "networking platform" behind the stage. A bunch of
this DJ equipment is occupying what was the freshly cleaned table myself
and other sudoers unearthed during our defragmentation, making it available
to the community for printing, omni network maintenance (read: whole
building), and mesh network activities. The newly acquired paper cutter I
bought and donated to sudo was pushed aside to make room for this DJ setup.
There's also a container on the floor among other objects around the table
that take up all the desk and sitting space (~6ft long, three chairs).
There is also various audio equipment lining the wall upstage in the
ballroom, and a table full of equipment at center stage.
Sudo Room itself is nearly clean thanks to the many hours of effort by
sudoers, especially some extremely excellent new members. I appreciate the
shared work, including new members' presences, enthusiasm, and respect as
we nurture this shared environment.
I do not appreciate the consistent disrespect and negligence demonstrated
time and time again by Chris B in his use of the space.
I'm not happy about this result, nor finding him asleep just now, but my
patience has completely evaporated at this point, like a batch of mate left
boiling for hours on the stove.
I leave this to other sudo room members to figure out what to do next.
I plan to leave Chris alone, sleeping in the Omni until someone else wakes
him up.
// Matt
Hi all,
We started working on the state tax exemption form, because the federal
501c3 is way less urgent. We need to send in our state info by Nov 6.
Wrote it all out for clarity. There are two roles that need to be
filled, one organizing our fundraising data and one bottom lining the
copyedit and final review. *PLEASE STEP UP & HELP OUT :)*
I'd also love some help researching amendments and updating them. The
state taxes form attached is for reference. Feel free to also reference
our brain dump ether pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudo501c3
*DEADLINE: NOVEMBER 6*
Thanks,
April
*Here's a list of what we need to fill out in the form:*
--Fill out Questions 8 (Whitney is working on question 8)
--Fill out part III, financial data (Max, can you bottomline this page,
if not, let us know asap)
--must include copy of receipts and expenses-- like bank transaction
data
--Fill out part IV, list all officers and trustees (wrangle names and
addresses of board members)
--Fill out part 6, number 1 describe fundraising
--part 6, number 3 lease information
*What needs to be submitted with the form:*
--Rental and lease agreement
--Articles and bylaws (most updated)
--Any form signed by Sec. of State, and we should have already filled
out the information form, SI 100 and if CT-1 or other forms were filled
out, we need to include that in our submission as well
--$25 check (from Sudo Room, payable to Franchise Tax Board)
--Copy of receipts and expenses (transaction history)
--AND EVERYTHING WE ATTACH MUST INCLUDE ORG NAME AND STATE ID NUMBER
(C3617428)
*Delegated Roles*:
*Whitt*
Question 8
Fill out part 4
*Vicky
*Document wrangler (SI-100, CT-1)
Poke Matt to make sure we have them
Make sure all roles are moving along and SHIP IT!
*
April
*Reconcile bylaws and articles
NEEDS help -- if people are open to helping research for past
amendments, please let me know
*Max
*Financial data -- fill out part 3, side 4
-must include copy of receipts and expense -- like bank transaction data
*NEEDS A PERSON TO BOTTOM LINE, YOU?*
Fill out part 6 describing Sudo Room Fundraising, number 1 and 3
--get a copy of the lease
Who can do this?
*FINAL COPY EDIT AND REVIEW, WHO CAN DO THIS?
*We need someone to read the whole form and review all attachments,
check 100 times make sure it's good to go
Who can do this?
--
Greetings from Beijing!
I'm buying a bunch of stuff from China for Noisebridge to bring home (since lots of stuff is way cheaper here). I'm happy to buy stuff for Sudo Room, too, if you add it to the list on the wiki page I set up : https://noisebridge.net/wiki/ChinaShoppingList
Best,
Mitch.
Hey all,
As I said before, due to the violent, dreadful, oppressive history of our
primate species, all mention of DDM has been dropped from the event
description
<https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2014/11/01_Transhuman_Masquerade_Ball> and
flyer out of respect for those who object.
Death sucks, losing people sucks, and it's awesome that it's 2014 and we're
the closest we've ever been to figuring out the solution to humanity's
biggest problem. That's the point of the event, and my hope is that we can
celebrate with freedom, love, and respect.
Doors at 7:30, introduction and lightning talks at 8-8:30ish, music
9-9:30ish.
Lesley
From: refugia <refugia(a)zoho.com>
> The time you put into these emails are your own choice. The sudolist is much
> larger than sudo's membership. I'm not sure who either of you are. I don't
> see you at sudo. I don't sympathize with your or Sonya's perspectives but
> you are probably both well interventioned. Sniping on burner's cultural
> appropriate of indigenous culture is bit too easy and those types of
> discussions are best had in person if your intent is not malicious. People
> get defensive and close off if they think they are being called out as
> racist.
I disagree with a couple of your premises. I think naming cultural
appropriation is an important job to be done, even more important than
cleaning the toilets or emptying the trash bins. It's not easy, it's
hard. It's socially risky. And speaking our truths is so important, it
doesn't often feel like a simple choice.
> If your intent is to be politically correct in your speech don't use the
> terms hispanic or latino, especially when talking to strangers. In the
> liberal lexicon they are vague racial-cultural. Just say spanish speaking,
> if that's what you mean and won't confuse people further. People are
> confused on their own.
You know what else you probably shouldn't do when talking to strangers
you don't know? Lecturing them about THEIR identity politics.
Especially when they've made it pretty clear how they feel on the
subject, and asked not to be contacted off-list.
> The terms latino and hispanic are used to erase peoples indigenous identity.
> I think that sort language and the obfuscating conception of race are much
> more damaging than white people painting skeletons on their face or making
> altars. Call first nation peoples by their actual names. Don't lump them all
> together. It's a habit that americans should stop, especially if they regard
> themselves as some sort of radical.
>
> The holiday is a derivative of the Nahua holiday. Speaking spanish doesn't
> give one special dibs on venerating their dead. In Mexico it's been
> appropriated by mexicans broadly, by non-Nahuatl speaking indigenous
> peoples, mesitizos and white mexicans. In mexico it's a constructed national
> holiday (like american halloween) with a multitude of local variations. You
> don't get this sort of exclusionary discourse about who can participate in
> the holiday in Mexico but you do see criticism of Halloween elements being
> included in dia de los muertos. In the post-revolution era there was a
> campaign to invent a national identity in a huge and extremely diverse
> territory. The sugar skulls used in dias in other part of Abya Yala are
> post-colonial. Sugar aint from here:)
Patrick, I think of all the things in your email, this bothers me the
most. It seems like you're responding to an argument about power and
turning it into an argument about authenticity. Claiming a cultural
marker has very little to do with what is or isn't "pre-colonial" - it
has everything to do with the power relationships involved. The part
about sugar not being native to the Americas is especially
problematic, given the role sugar played in colonization, slavery,
genocide, and construction of the racial categories that still give
white people disproportionate wealth and power today.
> There are other related versions of the holiday not related to the Nahuah,
> Guede, Finados. All souls day is a european christian holiday which is part
> of many the of the modern syncretic versions of the holiday. Most
> traditional cultures on all continents have a similar holiday around this
> time year.
Misses the point. It's about power, not authenticity.
> What does it mean to establish consent with another culture, consent to
> participate in ceremony? There real tensions in between the ideas of the
> free culture movement and left wing attempts at non-colonial intercultural
> relations y understanding.
On that, we agree. There certainly are. Personally, I think it
illustrates the limits of "freedom" as a concept, which is one of the
many reasons I am not a liberal, a neoliberal or a libertarian.
> Anywhoo the only event happening at the omni is a Haitian dance performance.
> There was no proposal for the event at a sudo or omni meeting. It's not
> worth spending that much time writing emails.
*says it's not worth time writing emails*
*writes a long email*
Bringing this back to the list because, as per usual I do not enjoy being
contacted offlist and berated about my culture, or berated about white
people's entitlement to my culture.
This is a problem.
-hep
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm from the east coast, Philadelphia. Philadelphia is 45,45,10 black,
> white, Hispanic (mostly Puerto Rican) + Asian (Cambodian, Vietnamese,
> Filipino, Korean and Chinese). As you can maybe imagine, day of the dead is
> really not a thing in Philadlephia. When I lived there, I never went to a
> DD party, or even really had heard of it.
>
> Here, in the bay, the racial/ethnic distribution is way different. I never
> meet Puerto Ricans any more, and there are way fewer blacks. There are more
> Asians and Hispanics. Not only is the current Hispanic population here
> bigger, this area was settled by Spanish soldiers (unlike Philadelphia,
> settled by Dutch and English mostly. Also some Germans). The Spanish
> settler influence is all over - in names, in the types of old buildings.
> The white people I meet here are Way more likely to speak Spanish than the
> people I grew up with. the white people I meet here know more about Mexico
> and Central America than the ppl back east. The point is, California is a
> way more Hispanic part of the US overall than anywhere I lived before.
>
> Therefore, it is not surprising at all to see way more DD. Moreover, it
> doesn't seem strange to me that people who live near each other
> would celebrate the same holidays. The thing that makes many Hispanics
> celebrate day of the dead (seeing Hispanics celebrate day of the dead) also
> makes white people celebrate day of the dead.
> Put another way, is it weird to you how many atheists and non-Christians
> in America celebrate Christmas? Probably not - you can see that at on
> December 25th, Christmas is just the thing to do.
> When you see white people celebrating DD here, it's not because they want
> to steal your holiday, it's because your culture is pervasive here.
> Does that make sense?
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014, Hep Svadja <hepkitten(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi guys:
>>
>> a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay
>> Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people
>> with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual
>> spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't
>> build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really
>> problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of
>> this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more
>> questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this
>> cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons
>> but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to. what is
>> wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the
>> ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
>>
>> -hep
>>
>> * edited this to be less of a jerk.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello!
>>> >
>>> > The Omni needs funds. Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
>>> > introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
>>> >
>>> > I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky
>>> transhumanist/Dia de
>>> > los Muertos themed costume ball. Should this happen? Is there a reason
>>> > anyone would like to block?
>>> >
>>> > Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
>>> > things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
>>>
>>> Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
>>>
>>> 1) check the calendar for conflicts:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
>>>
>>> 2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
>>>
>>> Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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>>
>>
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