if sudoroom wants the omni to continue to exist, we will need to all get
on-board to keep this boat afloat.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:26:13 -0700
From: Sarah Pritchard <sarahloupritchard(a)gmail.com>
To: "consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: [omni-consensus] !! Financial announcement !!
Hi friends,I'm stuck at work and probably won't make it to the delegate's meeting tonight, but I wanted to make an announcement about the Omni's
finances.Â
As many of you know, the Omni has been running a monthly deficit of about $8,000 - $9,000 every month. We've been able to make up for that by dipping
into the funds raised in December through the Indiegogo campaign, but those funds are running out quickly.
We currently only have enough $$ in the bank to cover two months of rent and expenses. Member collectives can do your part by paying invoices on time
(and even early if you're able!) for the next few months. If your collective has outstanding invoices for rent and shared expenses, this would be a great
time to appeal to your members for extra support so you can pay any $$ still owed to the Omni.
The finances working group has been updating our Quickbooks and will soon be able to present more detailed and thrilling financial reports so everyone
will have a clearer picture of where the Omni's money is coming from and how it's being spent.
Better data = more lucid decisions.
Let me know if you have any questions about this. The next finances working group will be held on Wednesday, July 22 at 7 pm at the Omni. Come hang out
with us if you want to learn more about Omni $$$.
xxxxooo,
SP
One of the video documentary people who were visiting us during the cheese
making workshop at CCL this Monday lost a black backpack with 2 Canon
lenses, his ID and credit cards.
If anyone saw it, please let us know!
Thanks...
Patrik
Hi again,
In addition to the outstanding rent invoice for April, please see the attached invoice for shared expenses at the Omni in April. It would be great if you're able to pay at least part of this invoice as soon as possible.
The Omni is in a precarious financial situation currently so I'm asking all member collectives to pay outstanding invoices if they're able.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks again,
Sarah
------------------------ Invoice Summary --------------------------
Invoice # : 1013
Invoice Date: 03/25/2015
Due Date: 04/01/2015
Terms: Net 30
Amount Due: $513.55
The complete version has been provided as an attachment to this email.
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if you put a 1 ohm resistance, you will just blow up the resistor.
24 volts divided by 1 ohm = 24 amps
24 volts times 24 amps = 576 watts
you need to find the highest number of ohms that will still cause the
motor controller to not give you an error. Lets say you find that a 100
ohm resistor (in place of the missing motor) causes the controller to be
OK. When you move the joystick, and it tries to turn the fake motor, it
will give it up to 24volts. But it's a 100 ohm resistor.
24v / 100 ohm = 0.24 amps
24v * 0.25 amps = 5.76 watts
if it works with a 100 ohm, you should use that. 5.76 watts is
reasonable. 576 watts is most of a horsepower and is not reasonable.
5
in case you're not confused i'll tell you this: the power a motor
consumes (from a fixed voltage source for example) depends on the amount
of force it's putting out.
So if you have a motor just spinning a wheel in the air it doesn't take as
much power as if you're making it grind grain, or push a fat person up a
steep incline. The ohms you measure when you use a multimeter on the
stopped motor correspond to its MAXIMUM power, basically.
so if you stopped the motor and applied 24v, 576 watts would flow through
it and heat it up pretty fast. But if you let it spin freely in the air,
its effective impedance would be much higher than 1 ohm!
as for how to isolate the motors for different jobs.. we can read the
manual on the control box and adjust the settings, or just hook up the
computer control and let it do all the work. I don't know though.
-jake
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Robert Benson wrote:
> i'm such an idiot. when i checked the motor resistance, i checked the controller's motor circuit resistance. the actual motor resistance is 1 ohm.
>
> however, even idiots get lucky...the motor worked with 100ohm. having realized the above, i will not power it again until i find a 1ohm resistor.
>
> for the record, moving the joystick in any direction moves the wheel in some way. so how do we isolate the motors for different jobs?
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> what do you mean both motors
>
> you only have one motor last i checked.
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Robert Benson wrote:
>
> my ohmmeter had a "k" in front of the ohm symbol when it read 150 k ; not a M or just the ohm symbol.
>
> datasheet i posted earlier seemed to suggest the motor is 120V while the brake solenoid is 24V
>
> both motors read 150kiloohm :/
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Robert Benson <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Â Â Â gonna have to have a high wattage rating, huh?
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Robert Benson <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Â Â Â 150k says the motor
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> on hunt for same
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> Â Â Â a wire jumper is approximately zero ohms, which will destroy stuff when power flows through it.
>
>    the motor controller is complaining because it sees infinity ohms across the missing motor's terminals. So just like the brake, the
> Â Â Â solution is to put a resistor across the missing motor's terminals.
>
> Â Â Â if we want more than one motor, we can just put the other motor on the missing connector and use the one controller to control both
> motors.
>
>    if we need more than two motors, we can use relays or switches with the same controller, or we could get more controllers. But lets
> start
> Â Â Â with one or two motors.
>
> Â Â Â -jake
>
> Â Â Â On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Robert Benson wrote:
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â agreed
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â i was thinking that since controller still said check right motor connector after i crossed the brake terminals w/resistor that
> Â Â Â Â Â Â i needed to jump it. when i jumped
> Â Â Â Â Â Â them the check right motor code went out which seemed to indicate the error was corrected. luckily i had to hold the jump wire &
> Â Â Â Â Â Â resistors against the contacts so i
> Â Â Â Â Â Â noticed the heat immediately after touching the joystick and cut the power. check right brake code has returned as before.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â maybe building a 120vac/24vdc controller would be better...we probably want four or more of these puppies for the lighting
> Â Â Â Â Â Â trusses
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â you should not short out stuff with even a thin wire.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â you are going to destroy the motor controller if you continue on this path
>
>          what are you thinking? do not short out the motor terminals.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Robert Benson wrote:
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â connected a thin wire across motor side of connector (while 110ohm across brake side) and got movement but wire got
> Â Â Â Â Â Â real hot...too scared
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â i'll damage the controller
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â right now to try a bigger gauge
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Robert Benson <sf99er(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â connected 110ohm across brake terminals but no worky
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â should be fine
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Robert Benson wrote:
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â might have to upgrade the roomba motor & controller to hit mice
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â will 150ohms be too much/work/hurt anything? i found a 100ohm 5w & 50ohm ?w i plan on running in series
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â if i dont find a more suitable value
>
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Jul 15, 2015 6:05 PM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â if you want to play with robots i have plenty, like roombas which won't break
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â your legs running you over.
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Roomba + tazer = no more mouse problems!
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> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â PatrikÂ
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> and congratulations, you're close! once it works, we can use the other
> electronics (this is from an old robot) to automate the process of sending
> the screen up and down.
Wait, are you talking about ... MC Hawking? Is MC Hawking being
reassembled into a movie screen??
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From: Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net>
Date: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:31 PM
Subject: [omni-discuss] Important Omni meetings in July
To: "discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>
Friends,
*There are 3 important meetings coming up in July that we need people who
support the Omni to attend**.*
On Thursday 7/16, at the regular delegates meeting, several proposals
will be discussed along with
information about David Keenan's sabbatical from the Omni.
On Thursday 7/23 at 7pm we will meet to update the community about
progress being made towards buying the building. Options for how to
structure the purchase and ownership will be presented and discussed.
Thursday 7/30 we will be holding our official Annual Board meeting as
required by our bylaws. New officers (President, Treasurer/CFO,
Secretary) will be selected. Currently Lara Durback is willing to be
President, Sarah Pritchard has agreed to be Treasurer, and Jenny Ryan
is willing to continue as Secretary. If you have an interest in
serving in any of these roles, let us know. Also, per our bylaws,
*each member collective must officially designate a delegate** at the
annual meeting. **Each collective should choose a delegate according
to its own internal process before th**e meeting.
Please forward this email to your collectives so we can have as much
participation as possible.
*Thanks,
<3
Laura
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Hi all,
There's a cool event based in Uganda, but designed for remote
participation, this weekend.
"Outernet" is a project to repurpose satellites to "broadcast" free
information, that can be picked up by inexpensive receivers, for free, and
then reshared for free over local networks/WiFi. A way to get information
to remote and underserved parts of the world. It's one-way communication,
so certainly not a replacement for the Internet or a total solution to the
Digital Divide -- but a very cool project nonetheless. They are also
developing democratic processes for deciding what content to share.
They are having an edit-a-thon this weekend. I thought Sudo folks might be
interested. Keep in mind, this is 10am to 10pm Uganda time -- which
midnight to noon Saturday Pacific (I think it's the same hours Sunday, need
to confirm).
Event link/signup:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/outernet-edit-a-thon-tickets-17702656121
And see their blog post:
http://blog.outernet.is/please-steal-this-blog-post/?utm_source=Outernet+Up…
If anybody would like to pass this along to Noisebridge or other lists that
might be interested, please do!
-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]] on the wiki
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> if you want to play with robots i have plenty, like roombas which won't
> break your legs running you over.
>
> mchawking was too dangerous to live.
Aw it's ok, I wasn't upset. Glad that he is returning to life in some
form, actually. :)
Hey all, I'm trying to build a winch for the 14' projection screen that
going up over the ballroom stage out of a wheelchair motor assembly. Per
Jake's suggestion, I hacked 2 server PSUs to get 24v@14a but the controller
is not working and the error code says the right wheel/motor is missing/not
engaged. Anyone know what I am missing? Do I need to jump something to get
the controller to engage while it is "incomplete"?
Thank you,
robb
let thar b lulz
