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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-consensus] [omni-discuss] Noisebridge wants to financially support Sudo Room & Omni Commons

by Jenny Ryan

Thanks so much Dane! You rock! I'll write back to Noisebridge friendz. Re: Sudo debt: we have even more funds about to be transferred from a Bitcoin cashout made several weeks ago. Also, there was discussion of relieving sudo of some of our debt given that sudoers have voluntarily completed electrical work that Omni would otherwise have paid over $7500 for. Hopefully someone can take up this proposal for sudo. I'm on vacation :) Jenny On 7/7/21 3:20 PM, Sarah Lockhart wrote: > there's a bunch of money in Sudo's bank account at Unify -- between > the Unify account and Sudo's paypal account -- there is a little over > $6000. There are a handful of small expenses that Sudo regularly pays > out of those accounts, but not much. I feel uncomfortable > broadcasting that Sudo owes $18k without acknowledging this $6k that > Omni could access. It is an awkward situation, in that I am unclear on > what the process is for Omni "claiming" funds in a collective's > account for rent. However, to me, this seems like an envelope with $6k > in it sitting on Omni's desk that for some reason isn't being > deposited or applied to back rent ? > > Sarah L > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com > <mailto:sf99er@gmail.com>> wrote: > > i can confirm that Sudo Room made a $6,000 payment in April & is > still $18,000 in debt, now. > several members are currently working on installing an exhaust fan > on the roof as the lack of ventilation is a concern for reopening > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 9:19 PM Dane <wanderingsearch1(a)gmail.com > <mailto:wanderingsearch1@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hey Omni Commmons, > > I am in Noisebridge hackerspace meeting and Noisebridge is > interested in donating money to Sudo Room that would > ultimately go to Omni Commons (pay debt etc.) > > Potentially matching funds if Sudo Room self-organizes (that > could be a lot !) > > https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/discussion-item-noisebridge-donate-to-th… > <https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/discussion-item-noisebridge-donate-to-th…> > > Noisebridge folks want to see more about what Sudo Room & Omni > Commons have been doing, etc. before donating, > along with stronger interactions between Sudo Room & > Noisebridge and > Omni Commons & Noisebridge. > > Sudo Room needs to have stronger outreach, social media, & > organizing events > (virtual for now.) > Based upon our social media, Sudo Room appears to be no more > or on permanent hiatus. > > I have posted on Omni Commons Twitter & Instagram about new > stuff happening at Sudo Room which brought renewed awareness > of Sudo Room current status. > > > Sudo Room is around $18,000 in debt so far (?) > If Sudo Room updates social media and organizes an online > fundraiser, that might strengthen the case for Noisebridge > donating money and bringing in new SR members for long-term > sustainability. > > > Omni Commons as overall project & physical space has been busy > everyday with mutual aid & food justice organizing > ( East Bay Food Not Bombs, North Oakland Mutual Aid, Acta Non > Verba ) > > Omni Commons has fairly strong outreach on social media for > reaching new donors, volunteers, collective members, etc. > (Instagram & Twitter both updated either everyday or every > other day in regards to everyday grassroots organizing...not > sure what deal with Omni Commons facebook is, not super active > and not on point ? > (another fundraiser digital source) > > > https://mobile.twitter.com/omnicommons > <https://mobile.twitter.com/omnicommons> > > instagram.com/omni.commons/ <http://instagram.com/omni.commons/> > > > Overall thing is strong outreach by Omni Commons, Sudo Room, > and all 9 member collectives/groups including > North Oakland Mutual Aid is one of many _*essential*_ aspects > of getting more awareness, more OC members, and monetary > fundraising. > > > Dane > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > <mailto:discuss@lists.omnicommons.org> > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > <https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss> > > _______________________________________________ > consensus mailing list > consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org > <mailto:consensus@lists.omnicommons.org> > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus > <https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus> >

5 years, 3 months

Noisebridge wants to financially support Sudo Room & Omni Commons

by Dane

Hey Omni Commmons, I am in Noisebridge hackerspace meeting and Noisebridge is interested in donating money to Sudo Room that would ultimately go to Omni Commons (pay debt etc.) Potentially matching funds if Sudo Room self-organizes (that could be a lot !) https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/discussion-item-noisebridge-donate-to-th… <https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/discussion-item-noisebridge-donate-to-th…> Noisebridge folks want to see more about what Sudo Room & Omni Commons have been doing, etc. before donating, along with stronger interactions between Sudo Room & Noisebridge and Omni Commons & Noisebridge. Sudo Room needs to have stronger outreach, social media, & organizing events (virtual for now.) Based upon our social media, Sudo Room appears to be no more or on permanent hiatus. I have posted on Omni Commons Twitter & Instagram about new stuff happening at Sudo Room which brought renewed awareness of Sudo Room current status. Sudo Room is around $18,000 in debt so far (?) If Sudo Room updates social media and organizes an online fundraiser, that might strengthen the case for Noisebridge donating money and bringing in new SR members for long-term sustainability. Omni Commons as overall project & physical space has been busy everyday with mutual aid & food justice organizing ( East Bay Food Not Bombs, North Oakland Mutual Aid, Acta Non Verba ) Omni Commons has fairly strong outreach on social media for reaching new donors, volunteers, collective members, etc. (Instagram & Twitter both updated either everyday or every other day in regards to everyday grassroots organizing...not sure what deal with Omni Commons facebook is, not super active and not on point ? (another fundraiser digital source) https://mobile.twitter.com/omnicommons instagram.com/omni.commons/ Overall thing is strong outreach by Omni Commons, Sudo Room, and all 9 member collectives/groups including North Oakland Mutual Aid is one of many *essential* aspects of getting more awareness, more OC members, and monetary fundraising. Dane

5 years, 3 months

Meeting tonight Wednesday at 6 pm

by Marc Juul

We'll have a meeting tonight at 6 pm both virtual and in person Here's the link for online participation: https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting Cel may also provide a mumble gateway. Maybe we should make it a bit of a work-meeting around re-opening and fundraising? We can do a quick round of intros and updates and then proceed to our todos? # Covid safety info for showing up in person Some of us can meet in person. I can't find any specific guidance for hackerspaces so let's follow what CCL has been doing which is 25% capacity. The room's capacity as per fire inspection is 49 people max and we share the space with CCL so that's 6 people for sudo room. I'm just gonna declare that we probably won't have that many people showing up so we don't need to have people announce if they are planning to show. If you show up and there are already more than 6 people then you should wait outside and let us know and we can coordinate with people in CCL to ensure we don't exceed the 12 person room capacity. Everyone will need to wear a face covering even if you are fully vaccinated. Don't bring in any food, though a personal beverage is ok. There is a non-contact thermometer mounted by the entrance to CCL, please use it. Do no show up if you or someone you have been in contact with has had symptoms in the past 14 days. If you have hand sanitizer or electronics friendly disinfectant spray (e.g. 70% or higher isopropanol) then please some. Your access cards to Omni may have been deactivated. We will be monitoring IRC and of course the jitsi call if you need us to open the door for you. We can re-activate people's cards after the meeting.

5 years, 3 months

sudo room meeting tonight at 6 pm

by Marc Juul

We'll have a meeting tonight at 6 pm. I won't be there to let people in so I guess virtual only unless someone else shows up. Here's the link for online participation: https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting -- marc/juul

5 years, 3 months

Free Morse Sewing Machine

by danarauz＠gmail.com

Hello Folks, There is a Morse sewing machine for donation. About the machine, the owner's words: "Maybe a 1950's machine. The motor is working, serviced two years ago. I made a bag with it, but I haven't gotten it to work since then. When working it does straight stitches and zig zag. The last time I used it, I got a lot of chewed stitches. It may be me who doesn't know how to use it." The pickup address is in San Rafael (Marin County). Address will be provided to those interested. The 3 images were uploaded the URLs below, due that I ignore the maximum amount of file size in this email list: https://ibb.co/LPtBKB1 https://ibb.co/LnGmL69 https://ibb.co/6rxt64p The links are good only for 30 days starting the day this email went out. Thank you!

5 years, 3 months

Omni Delegates Meeting Minutes 7/2/2021

by Jenny Ryan

I added some (ok, quite a few) comments after the fact tonight. I apologize (kinda). I'd really love for these conversations and decisions to be more accessible, with perhaps a few domineering individuals recusing themselves from time to time (come on, it's midsummer - take a break!) so that others can feel more comfortable participating. Notes recorded for posterity at: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2021/07/02_Delegates and below: y Ann'''Omni Delegates' Meeting - July 1, 2021 7pm-9pm''' * Talk at https://meet.google.com/diw-hszw-msr <https://meet.google.com/diw-hszw-msr> or 515-428-1108 (PIN: 465814905) * Type at https://omnicommons.org/notes <https://omnicommons.org/notes> * Send proposals to consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org prior to the meeting === Meeting Roles === * Facilitator/s: Patrik * Stacktaker: * Timekeeper: * Notetaker/s: Rob * Next meeting's facilitator(s): === Delegates === * ANV: inactive * CCL: Patrik * CSC: Arnoldo * FNB: Joe * FYE: AB * GWS: * LL: Anka * Sudo Room: * Sudo Mesh: inactive * Quorum (2/3 of active groups): we have a quorum = Agenda = == intros == Mary Ann,Joe, Robb,Sarah L, Patrick Arnoldo, AB, Anka, Teslim * We are front-loading most of the meeting into these intros! Now is the time to put forward any of the following things, many of which used to have their own meeting sections ** introduce yourself: name, pronoun, affiliation, if you're a delegate ** do you have any unmet access needs at this meeting? ** what meeting roles you'd like to help with ** discussion topics or proposals you'd like to put on tonight's agenda ** report-backs from any of your working groups ** updates from your collective ** any brief announcements ** updates on any conflict mediation ** if you've asked anybody to leave the building due to safe space issues * please be BRIEF! Less than 4 minutes per person! Anything that might take longer must be put on the agenda as a discussion item * Arnoldo and several other were having trouble getting into Google Meet. Someone with GSuite account needs to start up meeting first? Rob has details Quorum: Counting - Results: We do have a quorum == Finances 10 min == * Need correct contact info for person at ANV who should get invoices - Robb sent contact info to Sarah will reach out * Robb want to resolve the problem of overdue rents * Sarah Proposes that any collective that has fallen behind in rent due to Covid have their overdue rent excused * Partik asks if this has to be sent to consensus list; Robb confirms that procedure * Patrik: It is not clear what thing Finance can dur by themselves * Robb: Finance can not forgive rent. It must be done as a formal proposal. ** Jenny: Pretty sure you made that up. * Mary Ann: We do have specific process for Rent. To have rent weighed they must make a proposal to delegates and she offered to send out that procedure's description.She states the collective seeking rent relief should bring the proposal, ** Jenny: I would like to see where in our anything that is formally outlined? * Teslim: Where can we find the procedure described by Mary Ann * Mary Ann: we really should have a policy doc. This has been sent out to consensus list several times before * Sarah: our previous policy did not account for Covid though ** Jenny: exactly - we do have plenty of policy docs. Specifically, this is not covered. * Mary Ann: each collective has different situation. We can definitely acomodate soem groups * Sarah: proposes a blanket waiver to be put to a vote * AB - thx Mary Ann for reminder of policy. would be good to have policies documented. * Joe - not good time to change protocols. Not a time sensitive issue. Reassuring we * Partik: ANV has been having money coming in. He is not if favor of blanket forgiveness of rent. * Sarah: Not talking about blanket but wants those like ANV to be considered. Also groups loke Sudo doing Building work would be forgiven for their service. Aslo OC is not without money due to our being excused from mortage * AB: The Elcetricical work Sudo did has been brought out many times. Its between Sudo and the finance committee. FYE has been effected by the pandemic. Why aren't we being supported. * Sarah: This is an informal proposition; something I s\discussed informally with Jenny. She thinks FYE does deserve to have rent forgiven ** jenny-remote: post-meeting edit, i suggested sudo/FYE/liblens all have back rent waived (sudo hustling to fundraise and have also completed what would have otherwise been $7500+ in payments to electrical contractors - <3 to jake, alex, yar and others who've helped with this project to upgrade omni's electrical panels!) * AB: He is open to doing work for rent, Don't composre us to Sudo. Must condsider size, racial diversity etc. Consider this alternative.He will go through to=he formal process.OC made $70k. * Robb: Mary Ann was just stating the policy that are on the books. He is concerned with future rent collection. OC needs to show that we have income to get our loan, He just want OC to show that we have a stable income. We can forgive and then get a stable income. * Patrik: Thinks everyone present wants to forgive FYE and Noma.. Can we do that now * Robb all in attendance wantforgivness but we do need to follow process as Mary Ann described. * AB Agrees with Robb about stable income. Now that FYE can host events they will stay current on rent but we do need forgiveness. * Anka Any collective who need relief should ask by anxt meeting, Right? * Robb Yes. * Patrik We need to make sure every collective that owes rent gets notified * Sarah One proposal to delegates * Mary Ann The time of rent forgiveness must be figured out, What months the collective wants striken and when they will begin paying again. We need to acknowledge that each one has a particular situation. Just state the particulars of your collective. * Robb I think Yar will oppose blanket relief. ** jenny: ..what does that even mean, "blanket relief"? and why would you speak for her? i can say already: sudo, fye, and liblens all depend on in-person activities for their primary, scrappy income - 100% of which goes to Omni. other collectives do not. this is not a hard problem (when contemplated through a lens of empathy and striving for mutual collective well-being). * Parrik: Sudo does have n=money in their account ** jenny: what does that mean? all of sudo's money goes to omni, and has since 2014... (including 2/3 of the $100K donation received by sudoroom&sudomesh in 2016). we've been in the process of converting some bitcoin savings, which will most all go to omni. it would be nice to save a tiny bit of something for once in these past 8 years to upgrade the floors at least... all of omni uses sudo's resources (including CCL). * Sarah: Sudo did pay a bunch of their back Rent. ** jenny: approx 1/3 of back rent paid a month or two ago. another 1/3+ covered if electrical work-trade approved. currently fundraising for remaining 1/3. * AB:Our invoices are inaccurate. We need a better accounting. AB saw several unexplained transfers in/out of FYE subaccount - can we track who/what that was ** jenny: yes, it's all been tracked and the issues are visible both in the memos of the bank transactions (in the memo lines) as well as in quickbooks (so not sure where "unexplained" comes from...). the fye paypal account was incorrectly linked to sudo's paypal acct between june 2000 and jan 2021, and those transactions were immediately reversed. the only income intended for FYE via Paypal to date into FYE's Unify subaccount: *** $332.28 on April 6 2021 *** $435.75 on April 19 2021 *** $741.31 on May 17, 2021 *** which equals $1,509.74, exactly the amount in FYE's Unify/Omni subaccount (which remains in FYE's account, to date) - FYE's balance is $0, having no deposits over the past year. **** CORRECTION: These are, again, all sudo room paypal transfers. I will be transferring them to sudo room's account. will upload the statements to drive. FYE has had $0 in their Unify account, ever * Robb confirms quickbooks often inaccurate. Need forensic investigation of FYE account - may have been used in error ** jnny: not really. mistakes happen, and are accounted for by responsible finance folks (and verifiable by bank/paypal statements). if you have questions you can always ask sarah or myself.. or learn accounting! it's so fun!! == Reopening for events + Free Store 8:24-8:42== * Rob: Having permanent Free Store in entrance hall could change officially designated Use for that space - would lose grandfathering of all the code issues. poses existential threat to Omni * Sarah: Free Store discussion seems more complicated issue. Believes we agreed it as a temporary pop-up, not a permanent store. Suggest tabling this discussion. Free Store cannot be in place during fire inspection * Joe: could be explained as auxiliary activity of one of our collective on a temporary basis. Remembers Vicky agreed she would demonstrate Store could be removed on moment's notice *Joe: proposal came in for very big event - could pay $10K. Set off red flag with Jesse. Joe will do writeup with coments from Jesse, and send to booking group * Robb: Oakland Privacy (fiscally sponsored by Omni) wants mtg w 15 ppl mid July, recurring monthly. Willing to pay $50/mo to store some gear * Patrik: not comfortable with certain events, Ok for others. E.g. party in basement is bad idea * Mary Ann Can we figure out a definite opening date. * AB: need a time limit on this; when will we revisit this? * Sarah: if we have mask policy, is that enough? * According to Ian (air quality expert), Ballroom has best air flow, then disco, then entrance hall ; did some simple air quality tests * Anka: What are the definitions and limits of loud bands. * Anka and AB Ask that we review our covid related restrictions o events at each delegates meeting. * Patrik:The course of the pandemic is not predictable. = PROPOSAL: Opening for Events = * Allow public events w 49 in ballroom, 24 in Disco and entrance * Exclude loud music, alcohol, strenuous physical activity, singing/shouting * Commit to vote on a more well-informed proposal next delegates mtg * votes: no objections; most people in favor by show of hands * Joe: need to think hard on how to improve morale * Patrik: we'd been through a year and a half of trauma, and not being able to meet in person. What can we actively do to improve morale. Hold reopening party? Meet in person for next delegates mtg? * AB: Agrees on meeting in person. Can project folks who cannot attend IRL. Also hold monthly healing circle == Main panel / electricity shutdown 10 min == * == Morale issues at OC == * == Fire Inspection == * = End of Meeting = * please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the omni wiki at https://omnicommons.org/wiki <https://omnicommons.org/wiki> * then please erase the contents of this pad * then please cut & paste a blank template from here: https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Delegates_Meeting_Notes_T… <https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Delegates_Meeting_Notes_T…> * previous notes are archived here: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Meetings <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Meetings> [[Category:Delegates Meeting]]

5 years, 4 months

Last Month's Income & Expenses

by Omni Commons

5 years, 4 months

👋 Hi folks

by Tabby

I’m new here in this list and I just moved to Oakland. The way the Internet is being used today, frustrates me. I don’t think I should need a cloud service for my photos to automatically sync from my phone to my laptop when they both have multiple radios and they’re inches apart for most of the day. I don’t know why we all have to get individual wired Internet access and then set up our own wireless networks in the same limited RF spectrum. I don’t like that sometimes it feels like I can hardly communicate with another human being without seeing sponsored content. I don’t like that no matter how many cookies I block, companies can track me by my IP address. I write software/firmware and one of my hobbies is software defined radio. How can I help? -Tabby 😺

5 years, 4 months

[Discussion] Noisebridge financially supporting Sudo Room and the Omni Commons

by James Sundquist

What do we think of financially supporting the Omni Commons and Sudo Room as they continue fundraising [0]? Perhaps Noisebridge can help raise money and ensure stability! See this discussion thread on our forum, which anyone is welcome to join if they prefer to post there [1]. We would love input from Sudo Room itself, or those in the Omni Commons, to share their thoughts and suggestions. Thank you, and we look forward to engaging in this discussion! [0] https://www.gofundme.com/f/omni-commons-collectives [1] https://discuss.noisebridge.info/t/discussion-item-noisebridge-donate-to-th…

5 years, 4 months

cat trap

by johanna faust

Does anyone have an animal trap to lend suitable for trapping a 5 to 6 week old abandoned kitten? She has been crying-meowing on and off for almost 48 hours. yes i contacted feral foundations and animal societies, although if you know one that will lend a trap i must have missed them. thank you so much. -- *Be seeing you.*

5 years, 4 months

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